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Matt Trump takes viewers on a deep dive into one of the most provocative alternative-science claims circulating today, the idea that the heart may not function as a conventional mechanical pump. Sparked by Patrick Gunnels’ recent show title, Matt investigates the origins of the theory, tracing it from Rudolf Steiner and early embryology to modern researchers like Thomas Cowan, Ralph Marinelli, and Gerald Pollack. He explores competing pump models, structured-water physics, vortex flow concepts, and even the stunning observation that embryonic blood moves before the heart forms. With humor, skepticism, and growing curiosity, Matt weighs mainstream cardiology against emerging ideas about infrared energy, vessel-driven propulsion, and whether the heart’s true role is regulation rather than force. The episode becomes a fast, fascinating tour through history, anatomy, philosophy, and experimental science, all aimed at rethinking what we’ve assumed about one of the body’s most essential organs.

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