In this conversation, Tricia speaks with Luthern Williams, a futurist and school leader, about the role of creativity and the arts in reimagining education. They discuss the importance of imagination and the need to move away from the factory-age industrial model of education. Luthern shares the story of a school that was intentionally created to be different and emphasizes the importance of preparing students to live together and work towards the common good. Takeaways Creativity and the arts are essential for imagining what education can be and moving away from the factory-age industrial model. Integrated and equitable schools create dynamic and exciting learning environments where children can thrive. Teachers need to do their own internal work to create a positive culture and climate in the classroom. Connect with our Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luthern-williams-64a39ba/ Check out the free guide Tricia mentioned at the start of the episode: https://shiftingschools.lpages.co/your-free-shifting-schools-guide-more-generative-collaboration-in-2025/