In episode three of our addiction series, Judd is joined by Shawn Livingston - veteran, ultra marathon runner, and recovery advocate, for a profoundly honest conversation about what it truly means to hit rock bottom—and how to climb back out. Shawn is a former combat veteran whose addiction to heroin landed him in prison, he recounts his journey from jail cells and failed rehab stays to becoming a beacon of hope for others. The episode explores how childhood trauma, a complicated relationship with masculinity, and unresolved pain fed into Shawn’s addiction.

Shawn and Judd draw powerful parallels in their stories, from chasing validation through professional success to learning how to confront deep emotional wounds. The two men explore the societal stigma around addiction and why vulnerability—not toughness—is the true measure of strength. Shawn details how community, physical fitness, and consistent self-work—mentally, physically, and spiritually—helped him maintain long-term sobriety. They also discuss Shawn’s documentary, his ultra-marathon achievements, and how helping others heal has become his purpose. Shawn’s story is a testament to resilience, vulnerability, and the human capacity for change. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking truth, transformation, and tangible tools for overcoming life’s hardest battles.

5 Lessons from the Episode:

Vulnerability wins: Being real about your pain fosters deeper connections and healing.

Find your Super Bowl: Identify your ultimate goal and make every choice in service of it.

Pain needs purpose: Transform your darkest moments into a source of strength by using them to help others.

Community matters: Surrounding yourself with people who see your worth is vital to staying on track.

Balance your tools: Even healthy habits like fitness can become unhealthy if not kept in perspective.

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Opening and guest introduction
03:12 What rock bottom really feels like
08:30 Drug progression and the lure of heroin
13:45 Childhood wounds and validation
19:02 Father figures, masculinity, and identity
25:20 The power of going first in men’s work
29:58 Twelve rehab visits and what finally worked
34:15 Heroin withdrawal and the reality of detox
38:00 Running, fitness, and finding purpose
43:25 When sobriety tools become new obsessions
47:40 Owning your story and helping others
50:05 Redemption defined

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