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In this episode of Beyond the Resume with Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, we speak with David Kramer, President of Hudson Companies, about his unconventional entry into real estate, his leadership approach, and the values that have guided his work across three decades of urban development in New York City.
David shares how his early experiences in public affairs, a strong generalist mindset, and a commitment to civic engagement shaped his journey toward becoming one of the city’s most respected developers. He offers an unvarnished view of the development process — from managing political complexities and public-private partnerships to prioritizing affordable housing and sustainability. David also reflects on his recent four-month sabbatical and what it revealed about trust, systems, and the resilience of his team.
This conversation offers real insight into the real estate industry — both the challenges and the deeply rewarding moments — and delivers practical takeaways for anyone working in development, urban planning, or leadership.
👉 Listen now to learn how thoughtful leadership, strategic patience, and personal balance can shape both cities and careers.
Chapters
Entering Real Estate by Accident
[00:01:05]
David reflects on how a public affairs fellowship unexpectedly introduced him to the world of real estate.
The Power of Being a Generalist
[00:03:55]
How broad interests and soft skills prepared David for the interdisciplinary nature of real estate development.
Hudson Companies: Mission-Driven Development
[00:08:47]
A look at Hudson’s structure, commitment to New York City, and strategic focus on affordability and civic impact.
The Reality of a Developer’s Day
[00:10:55]
David shares his daily routine and why real estate requires both high-level vision and on-the-ground decision-making.
Navigating Politics and Public Resistance
[00:14:56]
Insights on community opposition, political shifts, and the challenges of gaining approvals in NYC.
Development Inside vs. Outside New York
[00:18:44]
A comparison of development hurdles and opportunities in NYC and surrounding regions.
Would He Do It Again?
[00:21:02]
David shares why, despite the obstacles, he would choose this path all over again — and encourages others to consider it.
“Don’t Postpone Joy”: Celebrating Milestones
[00:23:13]
A unique cultural practice at Hudson that helps maintain momentum during long project timelines.
The Four-Month Sabbatical
[00:25:06]
David talks about unplugging, international trekking, and the surprising benefits of stepping away from work.
Hiring, Mentorship, and Leadership Values
[00:38:01]
Why civic knowledge, curiosity, and flexibility matter more than just what’s on paper.
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Links
YouTube: https://youtu.be/xiSqXKXpKtA
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLT
Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3I3nkG9
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