Max Hillebrand makes his 8th appearance on the Bitcoin Takeover Podcast in order to talk about his latest project: White Noise, a private messaging application for Nostr. We also talk about Core v30 vs Knots, Bitcoin layer 2s & other bull market topics. Time stamps: 00:01:07 - Max Hillebrand's Background 00:02:47 - Post-Wasabi Wallet Era and Privacy Challenges 00:04:28 - Nostr Protocol Overview 00:05:58 - Early Nostr Experiences and Key Loss 00:08:51 - Nostr Client Progress and Edge Cases 00:09:58 - Nostr's Relation to Bitcoin 00:13:53 - Hardware Wallets for Nostr Keys 00:18:06 - Nostr Key Backups and Security 00:21:53 - Nostr Search and Web of Trust 00:24:21 - Ads: Bitcoin.com News and NoOnes.com 00:26:12 - White Noise Protocol Introduction 00:27:52 - NIP 44 and Gift Wraps for Encryption 00:30:20 - Signal Protocol and MLS Evolution 00:32:16 - MLS Protocol Details 00:33:23 - Nostr Privacy Limitations 00:35:17 - Trusted Relays and Metadata 00:37:25 - Nostr as Data Delivery Layer 00:38:41 - Self-Authentication in MLS 00:40:02 - Group Creation and Key Packages 00:42:38 - MLS vs. Major League Soccer Joke 00:42:53 - Diffie-Hellman and Scaling to Millions 00:44:24 - MLS Key Tree Structure 00:46:59 - Scalability Benefits of MLS 01:18:00 - Marmot and Nostr Tools 01:25:30 - The Zcash Pump Dance 03:09:25 - Angor Protocol for Recurring Payments 03:14:02 - Bitcoin Script and Smart Contracts 03:15:32 - Great Script Restoration Proposal 03:21:03 - Builder Spirit in Bitcoin vs. Ethereum 03:25:19 - Bills of Exchange and Peer-to-Peer Credit 03:33:09 - Historical Finance and Farming 03:38:35 - Starting Bitcoin Meetups 03:41:43 - Localizing Bitcoin Content 03:44:17 - Recommended Podcasts 03:47:48 - Podcast Benefits and Guest Interactions 03:54:39 - Audience Quality and Impact 03:55:36 - White Noise Future and Building Freedom Tech 03:58:51 - AI Coding and Proof of Concepts 04:00:38 - Nym Mixnet Integration 04:01:54 - Closing Remarks and Future Sessions