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How can business help solve society’s biggest challenges? Welcome to Take on Tomorrow, the award-winning podcast from PwC that examines the biggest problems facing society and the role business can—and should—play in solving them. Hosts Femi Oke and Lizzie O’Leary talk to industry innovators, tech trailblazers and visionary leaders from around the globe about timely topics: from the climate transition to AI and data; and from the future of food to how we build, move and power the world.
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(0:00) Intro
(3:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.
(4: 14) Start of interview.
(4:56) Drew Shagrin's origin story.
(8:12) David Chekroun's origin story.
(14:15) About the Institute of Corporate Governance at ESCP Business School, based in Paris.
(19:13) The focus of ICG between students, alumni, execs, directors, investors, state representatives, judiciary, and regulators.
(24:57) Corporate purpose under French law: changed in 2019 to explicitly take into consideration E&S issues.
(27:53) Comparing ESG trends from France & EU. The G is rooted in each member state, but E&S falls under the EU green deal.
(33:50) On board diversity: differences between US, France & EU. Sources: Copé Zimmermann Law (2011), Gender Equality Index (2018): on gender pay gaps, and Rixain Act (2021).
(41:32) On State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) and the role of the state in corporate governance.
(45:46) On the role of the state in promoting tech industry (startups and scale ups). BPI.
(48:55) On employee representation in the boardroom. In France, since 2013.
(54:19) On Entreprise à Mission structures and PBCs, balancing profit with social responsibility (in AI). The Danone case.
(58:24) Challenges of corporate governance in France: share value, board composition, and stewardship. AFEP and MEDEF.
(50:38) What are the 1-3 books that have greatly influenced your life:
- David:
- The World of Yesterday by Stefan Zweig (1942)
- Lost in Translation: A Life in a New Language by Eva Hoffman (1989)
- The Anatomy of Corporate Law by Reiner Kraakman (2004)
- Drew:
- How Will You Measure Your Life? by Clayton Christensen (2012)
(1:03:48) Who were their mentors, and what they learned from them.
(1:06:11) Quotes they think of often or live their life by.
(1:07:22) An unusual habit or an absurd thing that they love.
(1:08:20) The living person they most admire.
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