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In Episode 6, Han and Hitesh sit down with Marty Abbott, whose unconventional path took him from Army officer and paratrooper to CTO at eBay during its most explosive scaling period, and eventually to co-founding AKF Partners nearly two decades ago. Since then, he's worked with organizations ranging from high-growth startups to the White House—including helping fix healthcare.gov after its infamous launch failure. In this episode, Marty shares the discipline-driven principles that guided eBay through internet-scale challenges, why today's "black box" approach to technology creates dangerous vulnerabilities, and how the fundamentals of leadership and cross-functional engineering knowledge matter more than ever in the age of AI.
Chapters
1. Marty's Background (00:00:00)
2. From Manufacturing Manager to CTO of eBay (00:02:38)
3. Scaling eBay (00:07:49)
4. Scaling Modern Systems (00:11:11)
5. The Dangers of Not Understanding How Something Works (00:12:27)
6. The Skills Modern Leaders Need in the AI Age (00:17:20)
7. AI Friendly Organization Evolution (00:19:51)
8. Industries That are Adopting AI (00:24:08)
9. How AKF Helped Healthcare.gov (00:26:16)
10. Executives Need to Make Time to Retrain (00:29:38)
11. Advice for Recent College Graduates (00:31:34)
12. Companies Should Invest in Recent College Graduates (00:34:12)
13. Wrap up (00:35:43)
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