If your learning team is still seen as a cost center, this episode will change how you show up.

Jacob sits down with Andrew Scivally, CEO of ELB Learning, to explore why L&D’s credibility is suffering—and what it takes to reposition the function as a performance-driven strategic partner.

Andrew has worked with Fortune 100s, led L&D at JPMorgan Chase and Zion’s Bank, and now helps learning teams stop building “fluff” and start driving results.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why traditional L&D metrics like completion rates and smile sheets are killing your team’s influence
• The language shift needed to earn a seat at the table with executives
• How to position L&D as a revenue generator, not just a training team
• What it looks like to build onboarding experiences that match your external brand promise
• How marketing principles can help you sell the value of learning internally
• Why learning professionals need to become business professionals with an expertise in human capital transformation
• The connection between needs assessment, strategic planning, and C-suite credibility that ELB is building next to support the future of AI-powered, performance-focused learning

💡 “If you want to be seen as strategic, stop calling yourself a learning team. Call yourself a performance team. That’s what the business actually cares about.”

This is a bold, practical, and energizing conversation for any L&D leader ready to step up and be seen as essential to business growth.

🎧 Listen now and get ready to transform how you lead learning:

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