In this episode, Professor David Webster from the University of Liverpool talks to Professor Jon Dron of Athabasca University in Canada. They discuss the mood in Higher Education in relation to Generative Artificial Intelligence, and whether we should panic and how much. As both have a philosophy background there is some conversation about what might make us uniquely human, as well as well as what good things GAI might bring to learners. Jon discusses the decoupling of Learning and Assessment, and even gets in a plug for his (excellent) book: How Education Works: Teaching, Technology, and Technique.

We close with an optimistic eye to the future and discuss Jon's notion of seeing AI not as a 'tool', but as a 'partner' and what that might mean.