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In the second instalment of our CFO 4.0 Revisited series, we return to a conversation that first aired as the twentieth episode of the podcast. Hannah Munro sits down with Patrick Dunne, now an experienced chair and influential voice across business and social enterprise, to explore what boards truly expect from a modern CFO.

This episode offers a clear, direct view of boardroom dynamics and the realities of senior leadership. Patrick sets out what a strong board and CFO relationship looks like, the qualities that boards value most, and where new finance leaders often fall short. He also tackles the balance of the CEO and CFO partnership, how trust is built or lost, and whether a strained relationship can ever be repaired.

Key themes include

• The hallmarks of an effective board and CFO relationship
• What boards genuinely want from their CFO
• How to make a strong start with your board
• The role and boundaries of the CEO and CFO partnership
• Whether damaged senior relationships can be rebuilt
• Practical guidance for new CFOs looking to set the right tone

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Chapters

1. Meet Patrick Dunn And Boards (00:00:00)

2. Why Good Boards Matter In Crises (00:02:55)

3. Purpose People Process Triangle (00:04:00)

4. The CFO At The Board–Exec Intersection (00:06:30)

5. What Chairs Seek In A CFO (00:08:45)

6. Relevance Beyond Sector Experience (00:11:20)

7. CEO–CFO Trust And Partnership (00:13:05)

8. Spotting And Fixing Broken Dynamics (00:16:20)

9. Self Awareness Feedback And FIDO (00:19:20)

10. Onboarding And Educating The Board Financially (00:22:00)

11. Building Influence Not Just Position (00:24:30)

12. Final Lessons: Read The Thought Bubbles (00:27:00)

13. Sponsor Message And Client Testimonial (00:29:40)

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