Spec-driven Development With Kiro (Changelog Interviews #662) Changelog Master Feed podcast

We’re joined by Deepak Singh from the Kiro team. Kiro is AWS’s attempt at building an AI coding environment to take you from prototype to production. It does that by bringing structure to your agentic workflow with spec-driven development. Their aim: the flow of AI coding, leveled up with mature engineering practices.

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Show Notes:

Kiro: the AI IDE for prototype to production

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

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Spec-driven development with Kiro (Changelog Interviews #662)

Chapters

1. This week on The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: CodeRabbit (00:01:10)

3. Start the show! (00:02:16)

4. The idea resonates (00:09:43)

5. How Kiro looks/works (00:13:07)

6. Sponsor: Outshift by Cisco (00:18:22)

7. Don't get in the agent's way (00:19:39)

8. Where should the agent live (00:25:40)

9. Which model to use? (00:29:51)

10. Model cost perspective (00:34:30)

11. AWS teams using Kiro (00:38:40)

12. Full ecosystem plans? (00:43:40)

13. Hooks are interesting (00:50:34)

14. Compaction (00:52:24)

15. Let's talk stack (00:55:16)

16. Can current models get us there? (01:00:47)

17. Let's talk pricing (01:05:06)

18. Still figuring it out (01:11:54)

19. The looming tollbooth (01:13:58)

20. Wrapping up (01:22:52)

21. Closing thoughts (01:23:37)

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