In this inspiring episode of Changing Lives through Education Abroad, Zac Macinnes sits down with Andrew Gordon, Founder and CEO of DA Global Access Network — the organization formerly known as Diversity Abroad. For nearly twenty years, Andrew has challenged the field of international education to think critically about who gets to go abroad, how access and inclusion are defined, and what real accountability looks like in practice. Together, Zac and Andrew trace the journey from Diversity Abroad’s early days to DA Global’s rebrand, unpacking how the organization continues to evolve alongside shifting campus needs and global realities. Andrew shares insights on the 4A Framework—Awareness, Assessment, Action, and Accountability—and how institutions can embed equity into everyday operations. He also gives a preview of the 2025 Global Impact Conference in Minneapolis, reflects on the milestones that shaped the organization, and offers a hopeful look toward a future where equity isn’t just a value, but a strategy for global engagement.