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Exploring Cloud Migrations & Infrastructure Strategies with Jason Hall of Chainguard

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In this episode of the Cloud Native Compass podcast, hosts David Flanagan and Laura Santamaria chat with Jason Hall, Principal Engineer at Chainguard. They delve into Chainguard's migration from Kubernetes and Knative to Cloud Run, discussing the reasons behind the move, cost considerations, managing technical debt, and best practices for infrastructure management. The conversation also covers the benefits of using Cloud Run, their strategic use of BigQuery for event logging, and insights into least access security models. Tune in to learn more about navigating cloud-native environments and optimizing infrastructure.

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  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (00:52) - Jason Does Stuff
  • (01:32) - Chainguard's Migration Journey
  • (02:18) - Challenges with Kubernetes and Knative
  • (04:33) - Adopting Cloud Run
  • (12:15) - Multi-Region Deployment with Cloud Run
  • (19:26) - Security and Authorization Practices
  • (27:29) - Operational Decisions and Cost Considerations
  • (33:07) - Debunking Kubernetes Myths
  • (33:24) - The Illusion of Free Services
  • (33:42) - Scaling Challenges and Solutions
  • (37:00) - Convincing Leadership to Address Technical Debt
  • (39:41) - Developer Environments in the Cloud
  • (43:18) - Cloud Run vs. BigQuery Debate
  • (47:20) - Security and Logging Best Practices
  • (52:56) - Future Plans and Focus Areas
  • (54:45) - Final Thoughts and Farewells
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