Steve is joined by Big Nill for a wide-ranging conversation on where crypto adoption is heading. They point to ETFs and eventual retirement allocations as long-term structural drivers while unpacking the surge of points, XP, and airdrops that define the current speculation cycle. The discussion explores the future of collectibles, with stories from major card conferences and the growth of Courtyard showing how digital-first ownership and tokenized assets are becoming mainstream. From kids preferring digital twins to physical toys to the generational shift in how value is displayed, they highlight why collectibles are winning in today’s market. Closing thoughts return to crypto’s biggest barrier, onboarding that still feels like paperwork, and why mass adoption depends on apps that deliver value without users needing to care about the chains behind them.
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