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A group of National Guard members in Ohio are using an encrypted group chat to work out how they're feeling as President Trump deploys Guard troops to several U.S. cities.

It’s become a place for existential questions about their service, careers…and country.

NPR’s Kat Lonsdorf flew to Ohio to meet some of them.

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