In episode 102 of the [i3] Podcast, we speak with Andrew Spence, Chief Investment Officer of the $9 billion corporate super fund Qantas Super. Qantas Super recently announced to merge with ART and we took the opportunity to look back at the investment strategy that Spence put in place as the fund's first CIO, the innovations along the way and lessons learned.

Overview of podcast with Andrew Spence, CIO of Qantas Super

02:00 I came on board when Qantas Super decided to split the CEO and CIO role into two roles.

05:00 When I started there were nine active managers in the Australian equity portfolio and no passive investments. Whatever the question was, the answer was not nine active managers.

11:00 The GFC meant we took a safety first, peer unaware approach to our portfolio. Because if members experience too much volatility they switch to a lower risk option

12:00 What I inherited was a bunch of commingled funds and no individual mandates. Then as we went through the GFC, what we found was that a lot of these products were gated and didn’t have the liquidity that was on the tin

13:00 There is increasingly less competition in the small and mid-market

14:00 Talking timberland

19:00 The delegation framework has been a competitive advantage for us

19:45 At the end of 2008, the chair of the investment committee came to me and said: ‘We seem to be holding you up a bit’.

21:00 The trustee’s role is to govern and the management’s team is to manage and be held accountable for the outcome they deliver

24:00 We saw a lot of member switching during the onset of the pandemic and that meant these members missed out on the recovery in the next 12 to 18 months

25:00 We didn’t hit any of our illiquidity tolerance levels, but we came close

29:00 Addressing sequencing risk through a glide path

33:00 I think it is important to make information is freely available across the team and is not just held by the CIO

34:00 By the end of 2019, the investment committee was pushing us to be more peer aware

39:00 Tax managed, centralised portfolio management saved us $250 million over 10 years

40:00 The partnership model has worked well for us

42:00 Backing managers early on in their career means we were invested in each others success

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