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In this deeply honest episode of Cups & Courage, Saskia shares her experience of being diagnosed with breast cancer in early 2025, navigating surgery, radiation, and the often-conflicting world of medical advice.
A professional working in oncology herself, Saskia offers a rare dual perspective — as both patient and insider — on how information, bias, and communication shape our choices. She opens up about wanting agency in her treatment, the emotional gap left by rushed consultations, and the quiet courage it takes to simply live each day after diagnosis.
Together, Saskia and host Samantha Vale explore what bravery really means, how cultural attitudes shape our responses to illness, and the importance of listening — to ourselves, to each other, and to the space between being “well” and “not well.”
Cups & Courage is a podcast that shares real, raw, and hopeful conversations around breast cancer — the messy middle, not just the milestones.
Chapters
1. 00:00 – Introduction Sam introduces Saskia — a woman who brings both a patient’s and professional’s perspective to breast cancer — and sets up the theme of navigating information, intuition, and identity. (00:00:00)
2. The Diagnosis That Changed Everything Saskia recalls discovering her cancer in early 2025, the shock of hearing the words, and the emotional disconnection that follows. (00:02:10)
3. When the Professional Becomes the Patient She reflects on what it’s like working in oncology while becoming one of the patients — and the tension between knowledge and vulnerability. (00:06:45)
4. Too Much Information, Not Enough Understanding Saskia talks about drowning in data and research, yet still feeling unseen — and how medical systems can unintentionally silence emotional truth. (00:11:20)
5. Surgery, Uncertainty, and Decision Fatigue From lumpectomy options to conversations with surgeons, Saskia unpacks the pressure to make the “right” choice in a system built on assumptions. (00:16:30)
6. Learning to Listen to the Body Again She shares how she began to reconnect with her body post-treatment — through stillness, movement, and emotional honesty. (00:23:10)
7. Courage in the Everyday A gentle discussion about what courage really looks like when the spotlight fades — showing up, resting, and giving yourself permission to just be. (00:28:00)
8. Closing Reflections Sam and Saskia close with thoughts on listening, balance, and what it means to hold both science and spirit in healing. (00:33:20)
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