In this episode of Cyber Focus, host Frank Cilluffo sits down with Congressman Rick Crawford, Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. They explore the evolving cyber threat landscape—from Chinese infiltration of U.S. supply chains to the rise of paramilitary cartels leveraging advanced digital tools. Crawford shares his perspective on offensive cyber capabilities, domestic counterintelligence reform, and efforts to close legislative blind spots through inter-committee collaboration. The conversation also covers critical infrastructure vulnerabilities, agricultural data security, and the strategic role of open-source intelligence in modern national security.

Main Topics Covered:

• China’s cyber-enabled influence operations in the Western Hemisphere
• The evolution of cartels into cyber-capable paramilitary organizations
• Counterintelligence gaps within the U.S. and the need for stronger domestic protections
• Hardware vulnerabilities in supply chains, agriculture, and freight logistics
• Debate over splitting NSA and U.S. Cyber Command leadership (“dual-hat” issue)
• Legislative focus on reauthorizing CISA and addressing liability protections for reporting
• The national security importance of open-source intelligence (OSINT)

Key Quotes:

“We are living in a state of digital warfare… As long as we continue to be in a defensive posture, this will continue to be a pervasive problem.” —Chairman Rick Crawford

“[The cartels] have evolved into essentially a paramilitary organization… this is not the 1980s and they are very much a sophisticated adversary.” —Chairman Rick Crawford

“It's [China’s] ability to seed critical infrastructure elements…that gives them a foray into our supply chain. That makes us very, very vulnerable.” —Chairman Rick Crawford

“[Open source intelligence] comprises about 25% of the President's Daily Brief. That’s significant… but it doesn’t have the appropriate level of attention paid to it.” —Chairman Rick Crawford

"We either need to be all in [on Cyber Command] as a combatant command and then stand it up and authorize it the way it should be, fund it appropriately and organize it appropriately, or we need to say we think the NSA can do this and make this sort of a subsidiary of the NSA." —Chairman Rick Crawford

Relevant Links and Resources:

· Learn more about Congressman Rick Crawford: https://crawford.house.gov

· House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence: https://intelligence.house.gov

Guest Bio: Rep. Rick Crawford represents Arkansas’s First Congressional District and serves as Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. A former Army EOD technician, Crawford brings a national security lens to issues ranging from intelligence oversight and supply chain security to cyber threats in agriculture. He also serves on the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee and the Agriculture Committee, positioning him uniquely to address cybersecurity across critical infrastructure sectors.