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High in the Colorado mountains, the quiet town of Guffey hid a nightmare no one saw coming.
In the winter of 2001, three members of the Dutcher family were brutally murdered — not by strangers, but by teenagers under the control of an unlikely ringleader: 19-year-old Simon Sue, a self-styled commander who built his own secret “organization” and convinced classmates to kill in his name.
The Pact of Shadows explores how Sue’s delusional creation — a supposed spy network called O.A.R.A. — blurred the line between fantasy and fanaticism. Through psychological manipulation, humiliation rituals, and fear, he transformed a small circle of high schoolers into his loyal soldiers. When one of them — 15-year-old Isaac Grimes — hesitated, Sue turned friendship into a death sentence.
Join John and Angela as they retrace how a charismatic teen’s obsession spiraled into one of Colorado’s most shocking crimes. From the Dutchers’ mountain cabin to the interrogation rooms where terrified boys confessed, this episode exposes how the need to belong can become a weapon — and how evil sometimes wears the face of someone we trust.
Dark Dialogue delivers the full story: the control, the loyalty, the murders, and the trials that followed — revealing how fantasy turned to bloodshed in a town too small to imagine such horror.
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