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What does it mean to "deny yourself and take up your cross"? against the backdrop of both avoiding burnout, and looking after oneself (AKA Self-care)? This is what is spoken about today, in conversation with Joel Seneque.

Joel (along with his wife Michala) are the pastors at C3 North Perth, which is an urban church just on the outskirts of Perth in Maylands, WA. Speaking personally, this is my church community- and I think it is wonderful. To find out more about C3 North Perth, feel free to check them out at https://www.c3northperth.com.au/

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