What do our emotions have to do with our relationship with God and others? Host Dave invites Dr. Todd Hall, a psychology professor at Rosemead School of Psychology and a faculty affiliate at Harvard's Human Flourishing Program, to discuss relational spirituality. They explore Dr. Hall’s journey of overcoming childhood disconnection, developing the theory of relational spirituality, and integrating psychology with theology through his life and work. They talk extensively about how emotional and relational disconnection impacts one's spiritual life and the importance of healthy attachment and vulnerability. Dr. Hall emphasizes the significance of experiential knowledge of God through scripture, emotional awareness, and meaningful relationships. As always, the episode concludes with a contemplative prayer exercise from Ephesians 3, aiming to help listeners visualize and contemplate the height, breadth and depth of God’s profound love.

Takeaways:

• Your Emotional Story Shapes Your Spiritual Story: Our earliest relational experiences form the template for how we relate to God. Emotional disconnection can make God feel distant, while secure attachment helps us trust His presence.
  • Action: Reflect on how your relational history might shape the way you approach God today.
• Attachment Is Central to Spiritual Formation: Todd explains that spiritual maturity grows through secure attachment—experiencing God as emotionally safe, responsive, and consistently present. Healing often begins by allowing God and trusted people into the places we tend to hide.
  • Action: Notice where you pull away or are overly dependent in relationships, and gently invite God into that pattern.
• Vulnerability Opens Us to Deeper Relationships: Todd talks about how not addressing our past wounds can shut down relationships with others out of a fear of vulnerability. Doing the personal work to identify those wounds and let God heal them opens us up to share, receive, and empathize more deeply with others.
  • Action: Take space this week to reflect on what kinds of emotions make you the most uncomfortable ( mad, glad, sad, afraid, ashamed), and ask God to reveal where that may be coming from.
• Scripture Is Meant to Be Experienced, Not Just Studied: Todd encourages engaging Scripture in a way that shapes our inner world—through contemplation, emotional awareness, and relational connection with God.
  • Action: Spend time with one passage today, noticing what rises in you as you read.
• Measure Growth by Integration, Not Performance: Toward the end of the conversation, Todd emphasizes that spiritual growth isn’t measured by more activity—it’s measured by increasing integration: becoming more connected, more aware, and more able to love. Real maturity looks like a softer heart, not a busier schedule.
  • Action: Take time to reflect and honestly ask yourself: “Am I becoming more open, more present, and more loving?”

Quote of the Show:

• “When we disconnect from emotional pain, we also have to disconnect from part of ourselves, essentially. And then those parts of ourselves are no longer able to be brought into relationship with God and others.” - Todd Hall

Links:

• Website: relationalspirituality.co
• Book Link: https://www.connectedlifebook.com/