Dennis is joined via Zoom by actor and interior designer Francisco Chacin who plays Beau Bridge's fastidious assistant Stuart on the hit CBS drama Matlock. Francisco talks about the thrill of booking the gig, getting paid to be mean to Kathy Bates, basing Stuart on certain "clipboard gays" he's observed in the real world and his dream that maybe Stuart can coach pageant contestants as a side business. He also talks about growing up in Venezuela then moving to Canada with his parents, at 20, when the political situation in Venezuela got too dangerous. He recalls his bold decision to leave a corporate job in Canada to pursue his creative dreams in Los Angeles without really knowing anyone except the filmmaker Darren Stein, who he had met when Darren visited Toronto. Other topics include: Francisco's unique and gender-fluid way of dressing, the way people react to to his unique way of dressing, the dominance of pageant culture in Venezuela, being married to fellow actor--and past podcast guest Kasey Mahafey--and how they help each other with self-tapes and the internship that led to his thriving side career as an interior decorator to L.A.'s rich and fabulous.