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In today’s episode of Diversity Conversations, Eric Ellis and Tommie Lewis explore the power of embracing gratitude in a “wild, wild” world—where politics are volatile, emotions run high, and it’s easy to get lost in fear, anger, and division.

Eric shares how his faith and gratitude practice shape the way he views leaders, conflict, and even the most polarizing figures in public life—choosing to see people’s humanity instead of letting them become “boogeymen” in his mind.

Tommie brings a powerful story from Dolores, Colorado, where he spoke to elementary, middle, and high school students about “My Helping Hand”—who has helped you, who have you helped, and who will you help? That assembly opened space to address student suicide, mental health, and asking for help through the lens of love instead of fear.

And yes… you’ll hear the unforgettable moment when Tommie decided to race a high school student in his dress shoes 😂—and how that painful hamstring taught a beautiful lesson about connection, humility, and being “more than your job title.”

Throughout the conversation, they return to one core invitation:
👉 Don’t let hate, outrage, and fear train your nervous system. Train it with love, gratitude, and purpose.

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