In this episode we talk about (okay, mostly complain about) the anti-civilization and anti-utopian pamphlet: Desert by Anonymous. Is this a doomer text, or can both bloomer and doomer agree that it goes too far? We tried to be fair with our critiques but sectarianism got the better of us and we engage in some shit talking, please forgive us. References: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert https://organisemagazine.org.uk/2019/10/03/desert-review/ https://anarchistnews.org/content/critique-desert https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00177-3 https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-the-population-myth https://www.iias.asia/sites/default/files/nwl_article/2019-05/IIAS_NL49_1213.pdf https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300182910/against-grain https://salvage.zone/mieville_all.html Links: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer https://discord.gg/EGkyzpt patreon.com/doomervbloomer [email protected] channelzeronetwork.com