In this empowering episode of Drinks With the Girls, Karen and Lisa dive deep into the art (and emotional rollercoaster) of setting boundaries and learning to say no without guilt. They unpack why women over 40 often struggle with people-pleasing, how midlife becomes the season of reclaiming your energy, and why protecting your peace isn’t selfish—it’s essential. Listen in as they share real stories, personal struggles with family and friendships, the invisible emotional labor women carry, and practical, heartfelt tips for setting loving but firm boundaries. Grab your favorite drink and join us for laughter, vulnerability, and the ultimate midlife pep talk about owning your worth, saying no with grace, and choosing yourself unapologetically.

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“The Dance of Anger: A Woman's Guide to Changing the Patterns of Intimate Relationships” by Dr. Harriet Lerner

Rice Krispies Treats 80s Commercial

“Espresso” by Sabrina Carpenter

2022 Harvard Business Review Study
Karen’s Recipe for Setting a Boundary:
Where do you feel resentment?
Where do you feel exhausted?
And where do you feel out of alignment?

Some scripts to say no:
“I appreciate you thinking of me, but I can’t take that on.”
“Thanks for reaching out, but I’m going to have to pass.”
“I’m protecting my energy right now, so I’ll need to say no.”

Lisa’s Empowered Parent Collective

The Focus & Regulation Homeschool Blueprint

Sleep Episode
Episode 33: Wide Awake: No Sleep Till Brooklyn

Brain Episode
Episode 25: Your Brain in Midlife: Guest Expert Andrea Samadi

Chelsea Handler “The Feeling”

Holiday Episode
Episode 25: Evolving the Holidays Without Elevating the Chaos

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