This one’s for every woman who’s ever wondered if she was a good enough daughter—or a good enough mom.

Karen and Lisa sit down with attorney, writer, and self-proclaimed Queen Bee, Bernadette Catalana, for a conversation that’s tender, honest, and full of midlife wisdom.

Inspired by her book Daughter Lessons: Wise and Witty Reflections on Leading, Learning From, and Loving Our Daughters, Bernadette opens up about raising two girls, navigating the emotional complexity of mother-daughter relationships, and how writing helped her process grief, aging, and identity. From healing generational wounds to finding herself after the kids left home, Bernadette’s story is a reminder that it’s never too late to reflect, reconnect, and redefine what legacy means.

Pour yourself something cozy—this episode explores:

• Letting go of old narratives (and writing new ones)

• The surprising grief of launching grown children

• Reconnecting with hometown roots (and old heartbreaks)

• Keeping the promises we make to ourselves in midlife

• The beauty and bravery of sharing our stories—even the hard ones

Whether you’re a mom, a daughter, or someone trying to make peace with both, this conversation will hit you in the heart and stay with you long after the last sip.

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https://www.daughterlessons.com/

Daughter Lessons: Wise and Witty Reflections on Leading, Learning From, and Loving our Daughters by Bernadette Catalana

Bernadette on LinkedIn
🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
Pacifico w/Lime
Drink Up Witches Glass
Stella Artois Liberte
Rosé Wine

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