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We’ve brought the whole crew in for this one. Marty, John Day and Mark 'Watto' Watson sit down for a full Rugby Roundtable and things get honest fast. Grades are handed out for the All Blacks’ 2025 season, and they’re not pretty. From record losses to South Africa, to the stumble in Argentina, to leaking four tries against one of the weakest Welsh sides in years, the pattern is hard to ignore.

We dig into Razor’s “we’ve turned a corner” claim and ask the obvious question: where exactly is the corner? The boys break down player depth, the 9-10, 12-13 combinations, and why the coaching group looks like it’s in real trouble.

And yes, there’s still hope. The talent is there. The passion is there. But the bad days keep coming, and the All Blacks don’t get judged on 10-3 records. They get judged on the losses that matter.

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