On the DSPN, we go straight to South Africa to get the view from the top of the mountain. Martin is joined by the great Andy Capostagno, who’s watched the Springboks rise from gritty winners to a frighteningly complete rugby side with depth most countries can only dream of.

Andy explains how Rassie Erasmus has rebuilt this team from the ground up, why generational talent Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu is changing the way the Boks play, and how they’ve reached a point where world-class players like Handré Pollard don’t even start the big games.

We also dig into Ireland’s chaotic test, the scrum pressure the Boks applied, and why their squad could lose half a dozen stars and still win comfortably.

There’s plenty in here too for All Blacks fans: where the true gap sits, how long this Springbok window might last, and much more.

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