In this episode, we sit down with Will Harris, a fourth-generation cattleman and the force behind White Oak Pastures, a 3,200-acre farm in Georgia that has become a national model for regenerative agriculture. Harris shares his journey from industrial cattle production to holistic farming methods that prioritize animal welfare, soil health, and ecosystem restoration which he chronicles in his book: A Bold Return to Giving a Damn: One Farm, Six Generations, and the Future of Food.

We discuss the challenges he faced during the transition, the resilience his farm has developed—especially the face of crises like bird flu and unprecedented storms—and his belief that consumer demand can drive meaningful change in our food system. Harris makes the case to eaters, fellow farmers, and would-be farmers to join him in a slow pendulum swing back to ecological balance for humans, the land, and what we eat.