This week, we're excited to share with our community a bonus episode from PERMISSIONLESS IV, which just took place this past week in Brooklyn, NY. This is a Fireside Chat with Yano and Ivan Soto-Wright, the CEO of MoonPay, and Sherri Haymond of MasterCard who dive in and discuss the fusion of DeFi and TradFi. -- Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts -- Follow Ivan - https://x.com/ivanhodl Follow Sherri - https://x.com/SherriHaymond Follow Jason - https://x.com/jasonyanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod -- Join the Empire Telegram: https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh -- Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users. Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [https://app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates] -- CHAPTERS 00:25 - Intro

01:00 - Mastercard's Web3 Journey

02:53 - Stablecoins + MoonPay

05:08 - MoonPay + MasterCard Partnership

07:28 - Katana Ad

08:28 - Beneficiaries Of The Future Of DeFi + TradFi

12:25 - Global Stablecoin Adoption

15:25 - Stablecoin Backed Cards

16:31 - Katana Ad

20:12 - Future Industry Thesis For Tokenization -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.