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This is the first of a three-part series of conversations with Josh and Gary Freeman, a former guest on our podcast. In this episode they discuss Gary's new ministry, on relationships being key to white and black people understanding each other better, as well as the need to serve people well in spite of cultural differences.
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Chapters:
05:02 Why Gary is choosing to focus his ministry on local needs, instead of national work
9:59 Setting the stage for this episode
13:07 Where Gary is politically
17:24 Where Josh is politically
20:55 Why does there have to be a "black church"?
33:12 On white and black people understanding each other more through relationship
48:04 On the need to serve people well in spite of cultural differences
Josh's speech on relational apologetics: https://youtu.be/ndO3nByqVrM100 episodes