Ray talks about being a musician, what it takes, what it means and how you do it.

My favourite quote of the episode is "I don't play it because it's too hard for anyone in the audience that has suffered. You know, it, it deals with domestic violence. And a, a lady that worked for me in the early days told me her story, the next day I wrote her song and I wrote her story. And I always say to people, be careful what you tell me, because I can't help it. I might, you know, somehow inadvertently in a third person tell your story. And that song is powerful, but so much so that I don't wanna make people cry, you know, in just what I, and it's very subtle. It's. When I say powerful, it's subtle, but it says enough for, and I, I have seen people in audiences hang their heads during that song. So yeah, I just don't do that anymore. I like, I like to make people happy."

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