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Black Leadership Erased and Under Pressure: Could We Still Serve in This America?
In this powerful Season 2 conversation, Tommie and Lance ask a bold question: “If we had to serve today, could we do it in this America — as Black men, as leaders, and as veterans?”
This episode goes deep into:
•The weight and responsibility of leading while Black
•How the social and political climate has shifted for Black service members
•Moments from our military careers that shaped how we lead today
•Whether today’s environment would support—or reject—the way we served
•How brotherhood, mentorship, and lived experience inform our leadership now
•The truth about the emotional load Black men carry when leading in high-expectation spaces
•How we protect our mental health while showing up for family, community, and the next generation
This is one of our most honest conversations — challenging, vulnerable, reflective, and real.
Let’s keep the conversation going.
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