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On this episode, Michael Nielsen joins me to discuss how humanity's growing understanding of nature poses dual-use challenges, whether existing institutions and governance frameworks can adapt to handle advanced AI safely, and how we might recognize signs of dangerous AI. We explore the distinction between AI as agents and tools, how power is latent in the world, implications of widespread powerful hardware, and finally touch upon the philosophical perspectives of deep atheism and optimistic cosmism.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Preview and intro
00:01:05 Understanding is dual-use
00:05:17 Can we handle AI like other tech?
00:12:08 Can institutions adapt to AI?
00:16:50 Recognizing signs of dangerous AI
00:22:45 Agents versus tools
00:25:43 Power is latent in the world
00:35:45 Widespread powerful hardware
00:42:09 Governance mechanisms for AI
00:53:55 Deep atheism and optimistic cosmism
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