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Deals don’t fall apart because of numbers. They fall apart because people feel unheard, cornered, or disrespected. In this episode we pull lessons from a Congo standoff and a mafia sit-down to show how hostage negotiation tactics translate into everyday business. We share practical tools—framing, mirroring, humor, and tone—to keep deals calm, human, and effective.
Some topics covered are:
- Surviving a real-life hostage scenario in the Congo
- Navigating a tense property deal with mafia connections
- Why negotiation is more emotional than logical
- How to read the room and de-escalate tension
- Lessons from Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss
- Using humor, tone, and body language to shift conversations
- When to choose Zoom, phone, or in-person for hard talks
- Framing and anchoring techniques for better outcomes
- And more...
Chapters
1. Cold Open: De-escalate On Cue (00:00:00)
2. Welcome And Episode Setup (00:00:39)
3. Congo Trip Turns Hostile (00:01:49)
4. Why Negotiation Skills Matter In Business (00:06:00)
5. Mafia Sit-Down And Power Dynamics (00:08:58)
6. Negotiation Is An Acquirable Skill (00:14:50)
7. Calm Voice, Mirroring, And Information (00:16:39)
8. Framing, Emotion, And Guardrails (00:18:54)
9. Anchoring Identity And Standards (00:23:12)
10. Using Humor To Defuse Tension (00:24:49)
11. Labeling Bad News Before It Lands (00:28:49)
12. Body Language And Medium Choice (00:30:00)
13. Tone Over Text And Closing CTA (00:32:20)
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