What if the key to workplace equality isn’t changing people—but changing systems?

Erica sits down with Siri Chilazi, a senior researcher at the Women and Public Policy Program at Harvard and co-author of Make Work Fair. Siri is an internationally recognized expert in closing gender gaps at work, and she’s here to share what really works (and what doesn’t) when it comes to building equitable organizations.

They dive into:
💥 Why unconscious bias trainings often fail to create real change
💥 The power of “de-biasing systems” over trying to de-bias people
💥 The sticky floors that nearly derailed Siri’s early career—and how she broke free
💥 How small, strategic changes to everyday processes (like resume formatting!) can make a massive difference
💥 What to do when your company doesn’t have a promotion process—and how to uncover the hidden rules

If you’ve ever felt like the system wasn’t built for your success, this episode will give you the clarity and confidence to take your next step—and maybe even shift your organization while you’re at it.

🎧 Tune in to learn how you can help Make Work Fair—one strategic action at a time.

📖 Grab Siri’s book: Make Work Fair
📱 Connect with her on LinkedIn

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