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Former Navy SEAL turned clinical therapist Dr. Tony Dice joins Angie to share the raw story behind his spiral into addiction, the moment everything broke, and the decision to “participate in his own rescue.” From contracting overseas and living in fight-or-flight to selling his car to stay in rehab, Dr. Dice walks us through the hard won lessons that shaped his Holistic Change Model (HC-Mod)—a practical framework therapists and recovery communities are adopting to create real, lasting change.

They dig into trauma as the root, why “powerlessness” didn’t fit his path, the role of movement and community (yes, CrossFit), and how service became the antidote. Plus: his upcoming book After the Trident: A Navy SEAL’s Battle with Secrets, Shame, and Addiction, Bishop & Dice Defense, and the Mountain Seed Foundation’s family-based resilience work in war-torn regions.

If you’ve ever believed you could “muscle through it” alone—this conversation is your wake-up call.

Key Topics

  • High-performance identities & hidden collapse (SEAL → contractor → addiction)
  • Trauma, hyper-arousal, and why civilian life can feel “wrong” post-deployment
  • The moment of truth: choosing treatment (and paying for it)
  • Building HC-Mod: stages of change → narrative work → CBT action → meaning/purpose
  • Movement & community: CrossFit, routine, accountability
  • Family systems: why you can’t heal in isolation
  • Service as recovery; “teach to teach” as a force multiplier
  • Writing After the Trident and telling the truth responsibly


About Dr. Tony Dice:

Dr. Tony Dice is a former Navy SEAL turned clinical therapist, speaker, author, and co-founder of Bishop & Dice Defense, serving veterans, first responders, and high performers. He developed the Holistic Change Model (HC-Mod) for trauma/addiction recovery and is the author of After the Trident: A Navy SEAL’s Battle with Secrets, Shame, and Addiction (now on preorder).
IG: @dr.tonydice • Site: bishopdicedefense.com

Resources & Links

  • Dr. Tony Dice — IG @dr.tonydice | bishopdicedefense.com
  • Book: After the Trident (preorder)
  • Mountain Seed Foundation (family-based resilience work)
  • Bishop & Dice Defense


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