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The Great Security Debate is *back*! It’s been a busy year, but it’s time to get this show back on the air (and maybe on the road). Dan takes a break from the rat race, Erik took over the world, and Brian uses Elmer’s Glue to splice his network cables.
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- AWS and Microsoft make the best cases for business continuity plans, the AI
- Is public cloud reliable enough? Should we all move back to local data centres? How can we reliably assess that risk?
- Want an AI Data Centre on your town? NIMBY vs Innovation!
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Links to mentioned articles and topics:
- AWS Outage - 20 October 2025 - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cev1en9077ro
- Microsoft Azure Outage - https://www.wsj.com/tech/microsoft-hit-with-azure-365-outage-b3ac0724
- 37Signals move from AWS to Data Centre - https://world.hey.com/dhh/our-cloud-exit-savings-will-now-top-ten-million-over-five-years-c7d9b5bd
- 100 Years Flood - usgs.gov - https://www.usgs.gov/water-science-school/science/100-year-flood
- Great Flood of 1937 - https://www.weather.gov/lmk/flood_37
- Impact of Jaguar Land Rover Incident - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qpl0v3gnzo
- CDK Attack and Outage - https://www.industryweek.com/technology-and-iiot/article/55091142/major-cybersecurity-breach-affects-auto-manufacturers
- Russian grain blockade against Ukraine - https://www.cfr.org/article/how-ukraine-overcame-russias-grain-blockade
- Saline, Michigan OpenAI Data Centre & Pushback - https://apnews.com/article/openai-inc-joi-harris-data-management-and-storage-microsoft-corp-oracle-corp-f25196fca5865ed79d94c972249a272c
- Racine, Wisconsin Foxconn and Microsoft site failures - https://racinecountyeye.com/2025/10/08/microsoft-abandon-1st-caledonia/
- Racine, Wisconsin What happened to FoxConn? https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/what-happened-to-foxconn-a-look-at-the-1-2-billion-spent-and-where-it-all-went/3759518/
- Gartner Hype Cycle - https://www.gartner.com/en/research/methodologies/gartner-hype-cycle
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