In this episode of Gun Talk Nation, host Ryan Gresham sits down with legends Julie Golob and Fred Mastison as they walk through real-world force-on-force scenarios sponsored by CCW Safe. These aren’t textbook engagements — they’re messy, evolving, morally heavy, and legally loaded. What tipped points get you to draw? Shoot? How do you balance de-escalation, emotional burden, and post-incident fallout?
Expect:

• Raw discussion about regret, hesitation, and mental scars
• A closer look at what civilian concealed carriers rarely consider
• Breakdowns of simulated assaults, home intrusions, and unexpected role-player interactions
• What CCW Safe teaches about the aftermath, not just the firefight
• Legal, civil, and emotional dimensions you didn’t know you needed to think about

This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Range Ready Studios, Safariland, Inglis Manufacturing, and Guns & Gear.
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Gun Talk Nation 10.09.25
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