This week on the podcast, we attempt to discuss true crime… and immediately fail.

We try to cover the unsolved West Mesa Murders and the case of Norman Flowers, but as usual, the universe (and our brains) have other plans. Lauren’s husband makes yet another cameo—because apparently he’s a full-time cast member now—and yes, he still thinks he’s the funniest person alive. Mischa, meanwhile, is deeply offended after I tattled to her daddy that she was inhaling all the chips like a tiny, squeaky vacuum cleaner.

During the Norman Flowers segment, we take a hard left turn because baby-Lauren (age 6) once had a beta fish named Norman for reasons she absolutely did not understand… until her mom drops in with the plot twist: Norman Bates. That’s right—Lauren has been spooky since she was in kindergarten.

And THEN we accidentally segue into a tale about Lauren’s childhood pet raccoon, Rocky, because of course she had one. Why wouldn’t she?

Also, please note: at the top of the episode, Lauren publicly declares her hatred for stuffing. Because why choose soggy bread mush when dressing exists? (She’s right and she should say it.)

So grab a snack (but don’t let Mischa see it) and settle in for an episode where we technically talk about crime… but mostly talk about chaos.