In this episode we explore the Toltec path of shamanic dreaming — not as a philosophy, but as a living practice of perception, impeccability and energetic freedom. Joel Schafer shares his story of entering this work at a young age, what it truly means to reclaim attention from the “predator mind,” and how dreaming serves as a doorway into other layers of reality. We dive into the Toltec understanding of death as an ally, recapitulation as a path to restoring totality, and why true shamanic training requires power, humility, and self-honesty rather than substances or titles. This is a conversation for those who sense there is more to this world than meets the eye — and are ready to learn how to see.

Time Stamps

(00:00) Episode Teaser

(00:37) Opening Conversation

(06:18) Introducing Joel Schafer

(07:34) Joel's Shamanic Journey

(17:54) Experiences with New Shamanic Group

(21:49) Understanding Inorganic Beings

(23:28) The True Role of a Shaman

(31:00) The Toltec Tradition and Dreaming

(39:44) Interpreting Dreams and Dark Entities

(49:22) The Balance of Discipline and Impeccability

(50:46) Creative Practices and Substance Use

(52:00) Martial Arts and Dreaming Practices

(53:03) The Concept of Totality and Parallel Lives

(01:05:03) The Role of Death as an Advisor

(01:13:44) Experiences of Power and Perception

(01:20:20) The Connection with Earth and Sun

(01:26:47) Closing Thoughts

Guest Links

https://www.joelschafer.com/

https://www.instagram.com/joel.schafer

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