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How can employers rein in rising Musculoskeletal Pain (MSK) costs while giving people faster, easier relief? Christine welcomes Gemma Wenstrom, COO at Kaia Health, to unpack why musculoskeletal pain drives outsized spend—and how digital, multimodal care (motion tracking, education, coaching) empowers employees to self-manage earlier, avoid unnecessary surgery, and sustain results.

“For most people, the unlock isn’t a waiting room—it’s small, consistent habits that meet you where you are.”

This conversation covers:

  • Why MSK is so expensive and the 80/20 cost dynamic
  • How Kaia’s “Motion Coach” adapts therapy to each user, plus education, relaxation, and ergonomic tools
  • Human support that sticks: integrated coaching, nudges, and employee routines

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