Welcome to Episode of I’m The Gaffer

Gavin Coyle talks crisis management & incident investigation with Desai link, ex-lawyer turned safety pro, who moved from Australia to New Zealand because “they were 10 years behind in safety”.

If you’ve ever wondered what to do the second someone gets hurt on your site (and 99 % of contractors haven’t planned for it), this episode is pure gold.

We go deep on: The phone call every contractor dreads (“someone died on your site”)

– Why “just follow the procedure” is the WORST investigation answer

– How your own safety paperwork can be used AGAINST you in court

– The thumb incident that uncovered recruitment fraud

– Why New Zealand has 4× more fatalities per capita than the UK

– The one question that turns blame into real learning

– Light duties done right vs wrong

– Des’s book “Beyond the Incident”, the legal tricks safety pros miss

Sponsored by Hustro.com, the simplest construction management software on the planet.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

Paperwork-heavy safety can be used AGAINST you in court

Always ask “Why?” five more times. Blame is easy, learning is gold

Clients fear risk more than they love saving money

Light duties = good IF you stay connected (bad if you just pay & ghost)

Every incident is an opportunity – treat it like one

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro + Hustro sponsor

00:26 Des: “Aussie by birth, Kiwi by choice.”

01:27 NZ safety is 10 years behind Australia

03:19 From law → forklifts → safety (the real story)

05:44 Why most safety paperwork can be used against you

08:35 The thumb incident → international recruitment fraud exposed

11:29 Root cause vs legal causation – the difference that saves millions

17:43 What to do the SECOND the media rings

22:28 Hustro.com mid-roll

24:55 “Choose your hard” – light duties done right

27:49 Des’s 5 golden rules for ANY incident

31:18 The fraud case that changed everything

37:09 Des’s personal health battles (COPD + no immune system)

42:49 Why “just sack them” loses twice

45:44 Book “Beyond the Incident” – free download

48:15 How to contact Des (he answers everyone)

I'm The Gaffer, hosted by industry expert Gavin Coyle, is the essential podcast for construction people, offering insider insights, expert interviews, and actionable strategies to blueprint unprecedented success in the dynamic world of construction. Whether you are still ‘on the tools’, just getting started, a seasoned site manager focused on large-scale project management, or a fast-growth building industry entrepreneur/developer, this podcast is for you.

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