There are seasons when life invites you into a deeper version of yourself, usually through discomfort, loss, or the unraveling of what once made sense.

In this episode, I sit down with my friend Joni Cesario, someone whose past few months have been marked by bold decisions, closed doors, and a vision so big she had to burn down almost everything that wasn’t supporting it. What she shares is not polished. It’s not tied up with a bow. It’s the real, in-process story of walking away from a business, releasing relationships, grieving identity, and choosing to trust the unknown anyway.

Inside the episode, we explore:

• What happens internally when you let go of a business, a relationship, and an identity all at once.

• How grief shows up during big transitions and why it’s actually a sign of expansion.

• What it looks like to build a long-term vision from a place of embodiment, not urgency.

• The early whisper of an emotionally adaptive AI tool she’s creating—born directly from her lived experience.

Sometimes the bravest thing we can do is create space before we know what will fill it.

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