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How should we relate to the more fantastic elements in Confederation philosophy like contact with extraterrestrial entities, the effects of the pyramid structure, and UFOs/UAPs? How do we know what's real? Is any of it required study for our spiritual progress? What role does it play in our lives, our faith in the Creator, and ability to polarize and serve others? Jamie Liestman joins Jeremy to discuss how seekers might work with these less philosophical parts of the philosophy, recounting their personal experiences with the sublime, the supernatural, and where service fits into that.

Note: My audio is not as good as it could be, I'm out of practice setting levels. Sorry.

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