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Natasha Joukovsky — On Recursion, Status Games & Manufactured Nonchalance (EP.268)
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Strategy consultant turned writer Natasha Joukovsky joins me to discuss why bourgeois comfort is more conducive to writing than you think, why choice-plots make for better fiction, the eyerolling prevalence of manufactured nonchalance, our shared distaste for Atlantis Bahamas, and MUCH more!
I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. For the full transcript, episode takeaways, and bucketloads of other goodies designed to make you go, “Hmm, that’s interesting!”, check out our Substack.
Important Links:
Show Notes:
- “You can do everything, just not at the same time”
- It’s Recursion All the Way Down
- Pretending to Read vs Actually Reading
- Manufactured Nonchalance as a Status Signal
- Counter-Signalling, Fake-Famous & Jim’s Cursed Trip to Atlantis Bahamas
- On No-Choice Plots & Writing in Service of Beauty
- The Self-Deception of Status Hunting
- Why Bourgeois Comfort is More Conducive to Art Than You Think
- Natasha’s Next Book
- “We don’t do auctions”
- Natasha as World Empress
Books Mentioned:
- The Portrait of a Mirror; by Natasha Joukovsky
- The novels of Jane Austen
- Status Anxiety; by Alain de Botton
- The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock (poem); by T.S. Eliot
- Class: A Guide Through the American Status System; by Paul Fussell
- Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid; by Douglas R. Hofstadter
- Ulysses; by James Joyce
- Metamorphosis; by Franz Kafka
- Beloved; by Toni Morrison
- In Search of Lost Time (Remembrance of Things Past); by Marcel Proust
- Collective Illusions; by Todd Rose
- The Status Game; by Will Storr
- Anna Karenina; by Leo Tolstoy
- The Theory of the Leisure Class; by Thorstein Veblen
- A Little Life; by Hanya Yanagihara
270 episodes
Manage episode 482889625 series 2631820
Strategy consultant turned writer Natasha Joukovsky joins me to discuss why bourgeois comfort is more conducive to writing than you think, why choice-plots make for better fiction, the eyerolling prevalence of manufactured nonchalance, our shared distaste for Atlantis Bahamas, and MUCH more!
I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. For the full transcript, episode takeaways, and bucketloads of other goodies designed to make you go, “Hmm, that’s interesting!”, check out our Substack.
Important Links:
Show Notes:
- “You can do everything, just not at the same time”
- It’s Recursion All the Way Down
- Pretending to Read vs Actually Reading
- Manufactured Nonchalance as a Status Signal
- Counter-Signalling, Fake-Famous & Jim’s Cursed Trip to Atlantis Bahamas
- On No-Choice Plots & Writing in Service of Beauty
- The Self-Deception of Status Hunting
- Why Bourgeois Comfort is More Conducive to Art Than You Think
- Natasha’s Next Book
- “We don’t do auctions”
- Natasha as World Empress
Books Mentioned:
- The Portrait of a Mirror; by Natasha Joukovsky
- The novels of Jane Austen
- Status Anxiety; by Alain de Botton
- The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock (poem); by T.S. Eliot
- Class: A Guide Through the American Status System; by Paul Fussell
- Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid; by Douglas R. Hofstadter
- Ulysses; by James Joyce
- Metamorphosis; by Franz Kafka
- Beloved; by Toni Morrison
- In Search of Lost Time (Remembrance of Things Past); by Marcel Proust
- Collective Illusions; by Todd Rose
- The Status Game; by Will Storr
- Anna Karenina; by Leo Tolstoy
- The Theory of the Leisure Class; by Thorstein Veblen
- A Little Life; by Hanya Yanagihara
270 episodes
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