In this bonus episode, our guest talks about how she followed family footsteps into the fire service, working her way up the ranks and directing major incident response.

She’s now a group commander with the London Fire Brigade, overseeing around 100 fire officers who are charged with keeping London safe.

She’s also a National Interagency Liaison Officer, or NILO, a role that works incredibly closely with Counter Terrorism Policing.

Could you do Liz's job? We are always looking for people to join our team and our mission to protect the public from terrorism.

With 43 late-stage terror attacks stopped since 2017, the need to recruit incredible people has never been greater.

You can find current vacancies here, and on your local police force or fire service website.

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