Today, I’m joined by Kenny Williams — better known online as @red_ninja111.

He’s a full-time interdiction officer, and the host of the Beyond the Barrel podcast. He’s also a partner in The Justice Academy, where he helps law enforcement officers sharpen their edge through specialized training.

Kenny’s been in the law enforcement game since 2007, and his current role keeps him out on the roads every day — pulling over everyone from your average commuter to full-blown traffickers moving drugs, guns, and even humans.

This isn’t something we’ve dug into much on the show before, so I wanted to bring Kenny in and unpack the art of interdiction — what that job really looks like, how it’s done right, and why it matters.

If you’re in law enforcement, especially out on patrol, there’s a ton to take away here. And if you’re just a citizen who wants to better understand the mindset of the officer pulling you over — or how not to act like a jackass during a stop — this one’s for you too.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

06:36 Kenny’s Path To Law Enforcement

10:22 Getting Into Interdiction

15:06 City Vs. Highway Patrol

20:09 Podcasting & Educating Cops

29:28 Interdiction Tactics & Metrics

48:49 Reasonable Suspicion Vs. Probable Cause

50:50 Communication In Traffic Stops

01:01:25 Building Probable Cause

01:07:29 Evolving Police Training

01:21:23 Importance Of Communication & Education

01:29:18 Final Thoughts

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