What happens when we build technology without addressing our own shadows? In this profound conversation with transformation expert Barry Brown, we explore how the ego-driven culture of Silicon Valley affects everything from product design to workplace dynamics.
Drawing from his background in divinity and leadership development, Barry offers a refreshing perspective on why technology's fixation with "fixing problems" often misses deeper opportunities for genuine healing and transformation. He eloquently explains how the parts of ourselves we hide away—our shadows—actually contain our most untapped creative energies.
We dive into why stillness has become a forgotten practice in our achievement-obsessed world, and how its absence affects the quality of what we build. "Healthy teams make healthy products," Barry notes, explaining how organizations that honor rest and reflection ultimately outperform those running at constant maximum speed.
The conversation takes fascinating turns through topics like mercy as a leadership mindset, the power of curiosity in addressing conflict, and why universities and other institutions might need renewal rather than replacement. Throughout, Barry offers practical wisdom for anyone feeling exhausted by ego-driven workplaces or seeking more wholeness in their approach to innovation.
Whether you're a tech professional, organizational leader, or simply someone interested in living with greater authenticity and impact, this episode offers a blueprint for integrating your full humanity into everything you create. By the end, you'll understand why acknowledging your shadows might be the most powerful step toward becoming the leader—and human—you aspire to be.

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For over 20 years, behavioral scientist Dr. Ja-Naé Duane dedicated herself to one mission: Make life better for one billion people. This award-winning innovator and expert on global systems focuses on helping corporations, governments, and universities understand and develop systems of the future using emerging technology such as VR/AR, AI, and blockchain. Ja-Nae guides companies forward, helping them get out of their own way to create exponential innovation and future forecasting. She has had the pleasure of working with companies such as PWC, Saudi Aramco, Yum Brands, Samsonite, Natixis, AIG, and Deloitte. A top-rated speaker within the Singularity University community and the author of the bestseller, “The Startup Equation,” Ja-Nae at helping both startups and multinational firms identify new business models and pathways for global scale. Her next book SuperShifts is due out in April 2025.
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