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In this recap episode, Jules shares the biggest lessons she took from her powerful two-part conversation with Michael Klim — lessons about curiosity, courage, and what reinvention really demands from us.
We all know Michael as a world champion: 21 world records, Olympic gold, and the groundbreaking straight-arm freestyle. But what Jules didn’t expect was how the same mindset that made him extraordinary in the pool — tiny improvements, experimentation, backing his own style — became the mindset he needed most later in life.
After Michael’s CIDP diagnosis, he was forced into a completely different kind of reinvention. Not the loud, medal-winning kind, but the quiet, vulnerable and deeply human kind. In this episode, Jules reflects on how he rebuilt his identity, redefined strength, and learned to adapt in a way that has nothing to do with athletic performance — and everything to do with resilience.
This recap explores the questions Michael’s story raises for all of us:
Where are we relying on comfort instead of curiosity?
Where are we holding onto an old version of ourselves?
And what might open up if we finally let go?
Links to the Michael Klim Foundation — supporting people with CIDP and their families — and to his new book Klim are included in the show notes.
A powerful reminder that you can be a champion more than once in your life…
but you can’t be the same champion.
https://klimfoundation.org.au/
https://www.lifeblood.com.au/donors/blood-plasma-platelets/learn/plasma
Audible link. – ‘Klim’ – autobiography
KLIMA - amenities range
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